Stickfigures vs. Matriarchy
Posted by Richie on June 13, 2009
Wanting to run your own webcomic is all well and good, but if you’re too lazy to draw your own stickfigures then it might be time to reevaluate things. Alternatively, you could turn to Toondoo.
Tondoo is a website which uses a Flash-based interface to take all the hard work out of copy-pasting someone else’s drawings, giving you access to a few hundred pieces of vector graphic clip art that can be positioned on a one, two or three panel template. These images are divided into about a dozen self-explanatory categories – men, women, animals, children, objects etc. – although special mention must be made of the “Emoticon” category, which consists of false moustaches, headless robots, Manga-esque eyes and absolutely nothing that, by any stretch of the imagination, could be deemed an emoticon. But as far as I’m concerned, the problem with Toondoo is that all the images fit into one of two larger ur-categories, namely “Bland” and “Utterly Nonsensical”, with no middle ground whatsoever. You’re forced to choose between blandly anonymous Jon-from-Garfield clones with maybe three possibly facial expressions, or, say, the disembodied floating head of Benedict XVI. And although we know that a gag-a-day strip starring the disembodied floating head of Benedict XVI would be awesome – if only because it implies he’s been decapitated – the average Toondoo user lacks our glorious vision and sticks with the kind of robotic blandness that would shame Ctrl+Alt+Delete.

Mmm, cutting-edge!

Mmm, schadenfreude!

Mmm, matriarchy!
Yes, because the war against matriarchy must be fought on all fronts, Toondoo has its very own MRA strip, written and not-actually-illustrated by some dude called Renardgris. The above comic is actually his most impressive effort to date, even though he needs text labels to explain what’s actually happening, and even though despite this it still makes almost no sense if you don’t know the relevant background details. For those of you who aren’t keeping up with how awful women are at everything, a female astronaut (who only got the job ’cause she was sleeping with the man in the moon) lost a bag of expensive tools while repairing part of a space station. So, much like Todd Holton, Super Green Beret before it, this is a comic with a solid foundation in fact. It does, however, take some creative liberties with the subject matter:
- The woman in question was not an eighteen foot tall mutant capable of surviving unprotected in the vacuum of space (although I haven’t seen her since, and you know what cosmic rays are like).
- The tools were not in an enormous comedy treasure chest. This is standard NASA practice, as they prove difficult to unlock while wearing a space suit.
- The total cost of the tools was US$100,000, not millions.
- It was covered by US taxpayers, rather than “some man”.
- Many US taxpayers are, in fact, women.
- I attempted to work out what the actual cost to each individual taxpayer would be as a result of this, but the number was too small for my calculator program to display properly, causing it to crash.
- If you’re incapable of drawing your own stickfigures, you should really take a long hard look at yourself before criticising a fucking astronaut.
Ah, yes, stickfigures. Because Renardgris is obviously a busy, busy man, what with all the work he has to do to support deadbeat women who don’t work while simultaneously taking all the jobs from men, he can’t possibly keep up the above level of quality all the time. It’d be chaos. Therefore, when he set out to create his next comic, Pink vs. Blue, he did so using Toondoo’s posable stickfigures.

Now. I’ve read this over about a dozen times, and the best interpretation I’ve come up with is that… is that he thinks when women demand “equal pay”, they actually want to sit around doing nothing while receiving a payment equal to… their partner? All men? A mean average wage? Where, precisely, is she “paid the same for no work”, other than his paranoid imagination?
Pink vs. Blue continues on in this largely incomprehensible vein for some time, before Renardgris stops focusing on the horrors on misandry today and starts thinking about tomorrow. Yes, it’s a comic strip set in a dystopian matriarchy of the future, where feminism destroyed the world… one man at a time.

THERE WERE THESE FEMINISTS, SEE *mumble mumble mumble* AND AS A DIRECT RESULT, LIFE ITSELF WAS DESTROYED. Ask a scientician!
Not that I’d actually be in favour of it, but surely if you were setting up a totalitarian matriarchy in the near future, you’d just grow female children in laboratories and get rid of men entirely within a few generations, yes? So why are they still there, and why did the slighter fatter stickfigure only just notice? Also, you can just tell that the thin one’s been rehearsing that speech for ages, can’t you?

I know this isn’t the place for logic, but… If they all lost their jobs as a result of feminism, how can they be wage slaves? And we can’t assume that they just lost good jobs and are now slaving away in Dickensian workhouses, because this is apparently “their own society without men”, period. Is the pink carpet meant to represent the matriarchal influence?

Look, this is just too idiotic for… hang on–

Anybody familliar with the symbolism of double-headed axes will no doubt find their inclusion as an MRA weapon hilarious. Anybody unfamilliar, Google “Labrys” and enjoy.
Feministe Futur only lasts a few more strips before stopping without a proper resolution, although, thanks to Toondoo, anybody who feels sufficiently inspired can make their own. Here’s mine:

Femmostroppo Reader - June 13, 2009 — Hoyden About Town said
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Sheryl said
Anybody familliar with the symbolism of double-headed axes will no doubt find their inclusion as an MRA weapon hilarious. Anybody unfamilliar, Google “Labrys” and enjoy.
Using a brain was not exactly Renardgris’ top concern, from the look of these, so I should probably not credit him for irony, cleverness, or subtlety.
Thank you for continuing to sort through some of the worse muck on the Internet so I do not have to.
fuckpoliteness said
I’m confused: this man thinks that women have driven men away, stripped them of their natural authority. Then the men form an army and their manly warrior chants is: “Ah OO! Ah OO!”…for real?
Richie said
I initially thought it was a parody, but I recognise Renardgris from a bunch of MRA sites.
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[...] Stickfigures vs. Matriarchy « Crimitism Wanting to run your own webcomic is all well and good, but if you’re too lazy to draw your own stickfigures then it might be time to reevaluate things. Alternatively, you could turn to Toondoo. (tags: misogyny cartoons stupidpeople gender mras) [...]
hellonhairylegs said
I’m glad you’re back Richie. Thanks for the lols
Richie said
Ta
QoT said
Thank God you’re here, Richie, or I might have been forever torn between “this is a surreal yet hilarious send-up of MRAs” and “this guy is serious but un-self-aware to a degree which could be fatal”.
Richie said
Apparently he had worse comics up at one point, but was forced to take them down after they got flagged as offensive. I wish I’d caught them.
The Amazing Kim said
Way off topic (great post btw), but the comic Thinkin’ Lincoln actually does feature the floating disembodied head of Benedict XVI, as well as a number of other historical figures.
Richie said
This is the best I could do.
Mirthful said
Fuckpoliteness: I’m with you. “Ah OO!” ? What? Really?
Incidentally, “gris” means pig in Norwegian (also Swedish and Danish). Therefore Renardgris is just such an unfortunate username in my ears. But then I suppose the username is the least of his(? surely?) problems.
agouti-rex said
I like how, in the strip where the blue guy is heading off to work to, uh, chop down a tree apparently, Renardgris got so angry that he didn’t even bother trying to make a joke. He just goes off on a tear, repeating himself over and over. WMOEN WANT MONEY BUT DON’T WANT TO WORK, BUT MEN WORK AND WOMEN DON’T BUT THEY WANT MONEY. FOR NOT WORKING. NOT WORKING LIKE THE MAN. WHO WORKS. FOR MONEY. WHICH THE WOMAN WANTS. EQUAL AMUONTS OF. FOR NOT WORKING. HAVE I MENTIONED THAT WOMEN DON’T WORK FOR THEIR MONEY?
I also thought that the fat guy and the explaining guys were supposed to be time-travellers from the past or something, newly arrived in this dystopian future, simply because the explaining guy seemed to be popping out of some sort of portal in the second panel. But then I realized that he just had his legs crossed.
Webcomics truly are the medium of choice for misogynistic douchebags. Um, as oposed to every other medium, which, of course, we know are dominated by man-hating femininazis.
Hahaha, I just noticed your Nice Guy angels pic in the sidebar. Classic.
Josy said
‘Gris’ is ‘grey’ in French, so ‘renard gris’ is ‘grey fox’. Still a stupid nickname, though, and I have to admit ‘foxpig’ is funnier.
Does this remind anyone else of Chick tracts? It has the same kind of wilful stupidity to it.
Linda Radfem said
Ah Richie, I haven’t loled so much since the guy who ran out of cereal post. Thanks.
Emzy said
Great to see another post from you Richie. As usual, you had me cracking up
wiggles said
Looking through his “work,” he seems to have quite the unnatural fear of Valerie Solanis, considering she’s been dead for more than 20 years.
I thought this one was kind of decent:
http://www.toondoo.com/cartoon/15291#bottom
It’s not one of his, obviously.
Richie said
Every MRA site I’ve come across invokes Solanas with tedious regularity. Maybe we should start an urban legend that if you say her name aloud three times, she appears behind you and makes you pay child support.
I have the same birthday as her. And Hugh Hefner, ironically.
bg said
I would also like to point out that in Feminste Futur (where apparently the word “Feminist” has stolen the “e” from “future”) it’s technically a bit of carpet that seems to be saying “Yes! Yes! Yes!”. Obviously pink carpets hate matriarchy.
Man, if only we could show Luke “Siberia Rocks” Skywalker this toondoo site. He could make some magic.
Richie said
I made one for him.
Globule said
Oh I love feministe futur 7…so much to laugh at. The ‘ah, oo’s, the giant swords that look too much like penises for it to have been accidental, the hilarious juxtoposition of ‘feminist’ and ‘chauvinist’ as opposites – does he own a dictionary? Also I am intrigued by what he is saying under those axes (nice pick up, btw) – ‘dominate all men..ed life?’
I also reckon, in the first, that Pink is sitting down having a well-deserved break after having already chopped down her tree, while Blue promised her he’d make dinner and instead has spent all day arsing about on the playstation while she was working and now can’t…uhh…
make dinnerchop trees…what were we talking about?Linda Radfem said
I saw Pink as an environmental activist protesting patriarchy’s destruction of the planet.
tallycola said
How do we know the feminists took over and made a matriarchy? *We are never shown this*. All we see is non-gender-specific stick figures sitting around bitching and calling themselves men. They could all be being lied to by the main(?) stick figure for all we know.
Sloppy storytelling.
Richie said
See, that’s a good webcomic premise.
bg said
Holy crap. I was going to complain about his only using blue and pink to distinguish the genders (I wonder what he’d come up with for transgendered people), but then I saw one where the woman had wings and a sword and was talking about smiting them.
Also, I’m sure this comes as no surprise to anyone, but it seems as if our Mr. Grey Fox is still in high school, as he was referring to going to prom. I guess the other possibility is that he’s graduated from high school, but still attending prom, which is actually worse.
Aileen Wuornos said
I seriously laughed for five minutes at the spine one.
So hard I cried.
Richie said
Thanks. It’s no “Social Secrets”, but I tried my best.
ScreaminG BEAR!!! said
LIsten up FEMMES:
YOU ARE THE ONE WITH UNEARNED PRIVILEGE, YOU STUPID COW!!!!!!!!! THIS COMPUTER WAS BUILT FOR YOU BY MEN!!! SO WAS YOUR FUCKING HOUSE!!! MEN ARE NOT YOUR FUCKING OPPRESSORS!!!, SO HOLDING (YOUR) FUCKING HAND IS NOT (MY) FUCKING JOB!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU LIVE OFF MEN’s INVENTIONS, YET YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PRIVILEGE!!!!!!!! COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR OWN, FEMALE PRIVILEGE,, WHORE!!!!!!! FUCK THE MATRIARCHY!!!!!!!!!!! FUCKKKKKKKKK OFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Richie said
Ada Byron would like a word.
Charles RB said
Our specific computers are made in factories, I’m pretty sure women work in factories…
unrelatedwaffle said
SO HOLDING (YOUR) FUCKING HAND IS NOT (MY) FUCKING JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!
What’s with the optional possessives?
This computer? As in the one you’re writing from? If it was built for me, why are you using it, you thief?
YOU LIVE OFF MEN’s INVENTIONS, YET YOU WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT PRIVILEGE!!!!!!!!
I suppose you never use windshield wipers, dishwashers, Wite-Out, circular saws, cooking stoves, drinking fountains, Kevlar, syringes, refrigerators, or antifungal antibiotics, then.
Richie said
You should see the comments of his I didn’t approve.
"Fox-Pig" said
You’re partially right. I’m a writer, not an illustrator. I’m also a satirist, however, so that’s where you were wrong.
Funny enough, I found your blog somewhat entertaining. Contrary to what you observed from your blog-seat, I find the whole idea of feminism vs masculism ridiculous, and I decided to only concentrate on the feminism aspect for now (or, rather, then). I only joined the ‘MRA’ forums at mabtw.com for one reason: to get the masculist perspective on things. I found what they were saying as equally ridiculous as what I’ve heard what some local feminists say, and one of the topics brought up about the history of feminism was indeed Valerie Solanas. So, I decided to make these ToonDoo’s (they’re technically ‘comics’, but for the sake of clarification I’ll use the term ToonDoo to clarify on what kind of ‘comic’ they are). I only compare feminists to ‘chauvinists’ because that’s what I’ve heard the local feminists cry on about, chauvinists. That particular ‘MRA’ site was the only one I joined, so where you’re coming up with the ‘fact’ that you’ve seen me around in other places, I have no idea.
Hell, I could just as easily make a strip of ToonDoo’s similar to Feministe Futur (grammatically incorrect French for “feminist future”, in case you were extremely confused) but instead bashing masculists and having Dick Masterson replace Valerie Solanas. In fact, after not having been on ToonDoo for a few months, why not do it? Oh, and the pink carpet in Feministe Futur 5 couldn’t be changed, seeing as it was a background graphic file. It’d be pretty humorous to actually see a pink carpet in a Catholic church, so maybe you were subconsciously trying to satisfy your mind there by trying to analyze that carpet as being feminist.
To Bg: I was in high school at the time I made these. I graduated from there 9 days before this blog was posted, actually.
Richie said
The problem with finding feminism and masculinism “equally ridiculous” is that men and women aren’t on equal footing. Women have a legitimate reason to be angry about the way they’re treated in comparison to men; Men don’t have a legitimate reason to be angry about the way they’re treated in comparison to women. Feminists challenge a power structure; Chauvinists reinforce it. The two things simply aren’t comparable.
"Fox-Pig" said
Classifying Chauvinists as a group loops in both men and women into that group according to the definition of chauvinist. I assume that you mean Masculists when you say Chauvinists in that regard.
There isn’t a solid form of feminism or masculinism (as in it’s a spectrum), and I took into account the extremes of both. I used that “fear of Solanas” for the Separatist side of feminism, considering that she was a firm believer in it. Now, how I found both equally ridiculous, despite inherently unequal footing on the matter, still applies because I defined an extreme of feminism. Likewise, I defined an extreme of masculinism, which can be found in Feministe Futur 7. I vaguely referenced 300 into the ToonDoo, only because Dick Masterson himself took his time to write an article or so on his site about the movie and how ‘manly’ it was.
"Fox-Pig" said
On a side note, that ScreaminG Bear is a representation of the ‘MRA’ site that I snooped around in. A troll, if I’m not mistaken.
thebeardedlady said
“If you’re incapable of drawing your own stickfigures, you should really take a long hard look at yourself before criticising a fucking astronaut.”
This.
Thanks. Love it.