Toondoo Doodoo Part Two
Posted by Richie on July 8, 2009
After the success of my haunting tribute to RenardGris’ “Feministe Futur” webcomic, I’ve decided to make some more.

This was inspired by a banner ad I keep seeing for a webcomic called I Dream of a Jeanie Bottle, which bills itself as “A new webcomic with a TG twist!”. Anybody even remotely familliar with the current state of webcomics will, of course, immediately see the problem with this: Ever since The Wotch proved it was possible to rake in thousands of dollars a month by occasionally sketching sub-Garfield quality men turning into overendowed women, it would be more of a surprise if the male lead didn’t turn into a girl within the first dozen pages. In I Dream of a Jeanie Bottle‘s case, they do it on page one. Christ, even Exiern showed more restraint than that.

Ah, yeah, The Ladder Theory. It’s reasonably well known, but for anybody unaware, it basically goes like this: Everybody is a manipulative asshole, all relationships are built on a foundation of lies, and all human interaction is either pointless or an attempt to get laid. According to the website, it was formulated after “Many years of sociological field testing”. I’ll tentatively suggest that the experiment in question may not have been scientifically valid, and raise you my own pet project, “The Douchebag Theory”. The Douchebag Theory states that the creator of The Ladder Theory is a massive douchebag, ergo the only people who’ll talk to and/or have sex with him are also massive douchebags, because any self-respecting, sensible human being wouldn’t go within spitting distance of the fuckwit.
This would, of course, never happen in Siberia.

Still more satirical than the Chaser.

One of the 117 unwatchable parts of 300 – or “minutes”, as they’re otherwise known – is the bit where the suspiciously-dark Persian ambassador reminds us how backward he is by being appalled that suspiciously-light Spartan women are allowed to answer back. Yes, women did have more freedom in Sparta than many other city-states, a fact which pissed off… um, Aristotle. Persia, on the other hand, while not exactly a poster-child for egalitarianism, had women doing all sorts of neat stuff. Like being naval commanders. Or, say, members of Xerxes’ 10,000 Immortals. Who were in the film.
“HAV” stands for “Historically Accurate Version”. I was going to do one for each glaring abuse of the facts, but then realised how long it’d take.

Few sites elevate shooting yourself in the foot to an artform in quite the way antimisandry.com does. My current favourite is probably this great list of “Men Compared to Women Averages” (in a forum dedicated to “Great Men and their Historical Accomplishments”, because we just don’t hear enough about those). Got that? Good, now find a thread where they’re whining about, say, the education system failing boys because they’re getting lower grades than girls, and see what strikes you. Find the slightest hint of self-awareness and win a prize!

I contemplated doing a parody of Life With Kreg, but after twenty minutes of trying I realised it was actually impossible, so here’s the original instead.

Sheryl said
Your first comic reminded me of something I have sometimes wondered about in boy-becomes-girl comics: Why do dumpy losers always turn into really hot babes? I would think that a man turning into a woman would look more like a female equivalent to him: tubby men become tubby women, skinny men become skinny women, muscled men become muscled women, etc. But instead, the rule seems to be any form of man becomes a busty-smokin’-hot babe. I hate to think what I would look like if I turned into a man, following these rules.
Richie said
The Wotch actually takes it further and has an alien squid turn into an unreasonably-proportioned woman upon exposure to gender-reversing gas.
Charles RB said
Reading the Ladder Theory is like reading Cthulhu Mythos stories where the real world is a lie and there’s all sorts of sickening horrors really going on under the surface and we are nothing against them. Except crap.
I’m waiting for a Game/Ladder unified theory. We can call it Snakes-and-Ladders Theory.
Richie said
“Mandy passes Go! and collects $200. Actually, make it $250 ’cause the bitches spend it so quickly, don’t they?”
Janelle said
ohmigosh you actually posted!!
and here I thought the last one was the best parody
my god
Richie said
I actually read the entirety of Life With Kreg in one sitting because I was sure there’d be a meta-punchline at some point. There wasn’t, so I obsessively Googled it in the hopes of finding a forum thread or a blog post or something where the creator admits it’s all an elaborate satire. There also wasn’t. So either it’s real, or – and this would make more sense – it’s still real, but it was made fifteen years ago when stoner humour meant Jason Mewes rather than Seth Rogen, and it somehow fell forward through time.
meerkat said
OH GOD why did I click your link to “The Ladder Theory”? Now I must run out and get some brain bleach, preferably with extra anti-sexism power-releasing beads (like those fancy laundry soaps on TV purport to have).
Richie said
It gets worse.
Charles RB said
That website is why the Daleks are justified.
agouti-rex said
Only tangentially related, I once knew a guy who was absolutely obsessed with transgenderism. In that literally every conversation ended up turning to the topic and he constantly tried to get me to introduce him to my trans friends. Although he wasn’t trans himself, he once attended a transgender support group held at the local GLBT so he could ogle the other attendees.
He was also a rabid Wotch fan. Not to malign all Wotch readers, but now I can’t think of that comic without imagining that he’s representative of the whole fanbase.
Richie said
I can’t imagine anything would turn people off The Wotch faster than attending a transgender support group and discovering it’s actually a literal life-or-death issue of incredible complexity that can lead to some really, really painful shit rather than a big pillow fight. The whole “Say, I wonder what it would be like to have breasts!” wank-fodder thing would be acceptable (if poorly-drawn) if that’s as far as they took it, but instead of stopping there they go into this whole “WOW! NOW I AM AN EMOTIONALLY-SOPHISTICATED MOON GODDESS WITH MAGIC SEXINESS WHO NEVER EXPERIENCES PREJUDICE OR HAS TO TAKE A DUMP, LET’S HAVE A SLUMBER PARTY :3″ crapstravaganza, which manages to demean cis-men, cis-women and transwomen AT THE SAME TIME while totally ignoring the existence of transmen because they aren’t FUN. Hell, talking to an actual woman for more than five minutes would be sufficient to turn most people off it. Read Ranma 1/2 instead! It’s competently drawn and updates faster, despite ending in 1996!
Oh God, and their whole 910CMX community. 26 comics, one premise.
bg said
Ah, 300. You can save yourself time and money by just bellowing at yourself for 2 hours in slow motion.
My favorite part? When they make fun of the Athenians for being gay. Because it’s impossible to be gay AND hypermasculine. And it’s not like the Spartans ever did that kind of stuff, no sir.
I love explaining to idiots who love that movie, that even IF the Spartans didn’t idealize homosexual relationships, they were soundly beaten by the Sacred Band of Thebes, who were quite gay. Or who engaged in homosexual endeavors, I do generally dislike using the modern conceptions of “gay” and “straight” to describe people who almost certainly didn’t think in those terms.
Still all of that pales to people talking about freedom, and getting to explain to them that Sparta was a slave society. Or that really, Persia just wanted money. If you paid them money, they’d generally let you keep going the way you were.
Richie said
For me, the worst part of explaining 300 to fanboys is that they’ll alternate between “It’s history, that’s how things were!” and “It’s just a movie, it doesn’t have to be realistic” in the same sentence. I’m beginning to appreciate the even-handedness of Mel Gibson.
Zoe Brain said
*SIGH*
Most natural sex changes in humans are from female to male, due to either 5alpha-reductase-2 deficiency or 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase-3.
There are only a handful known to have gone the other way, and the male-to-female changes are nowhere near as complete. The best documented is here.
I would think that a man turning into a woman would look more like a female equivalent to him: tubby men become tubby women, skinny men become skinny women, muscled men become muscled women
In reality, that’s what actually happens, yes. A “hot babe” I’m not, alas. I have to make do with a warm personality.
Richie said
And there’s some cases of Klinefelter’s Syndrome that are effectively a natural male-to-female sex change, but (from what I recall) it’s something that’s with you from when you’re born rather than manifesting later in life.
But yeah, a story about any of these thing would be infinitely more worthwhile than almost all of what we’ve got now.
Charles RB said
“they’ll alternate between “It’s history, that’s how things were!” and “It’s just a movie, it doesn’t have to be realistic” in the same sentence.”
Do they notice the huge gaping disconnect here or do they just not care?
(In history, it’s just how the RAF was that lots of Polish, Irish, French, and Canadian (Anglo and French) were serving in it during the Battle of Britain, but it’s amazing how much the British National Party and UK Independence Party like to ignore that…)
Richie said
WE HAVE UNEARNED PRIVILEGE WE DON’T NEED YOUR FANCY LOGIC
It’ll be interesting to see how the people defending the “colourblind casting” of Avatar respond if they cast a POC in a traditionally white role. And by “interesting” I mean “tiresomely predictable”.
Charles RB said
Oh GOD yes.
And some of the defences are incredibly lame. Like “Aang always looked white ANYWAY!” or “why are YOU making it about race?!”.
I like the idea it’d be hard to find actors, as if they haven’t got America, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, Ireland, or New Zealand to trawl through, and that’s just the English-speaking nations and the ones off the top of my head.
Lady Tsunadae said
I gave up on shite western transitions of anime* to movies after the abomination that is “Dragon Ball”. I know I should have known better, but after watching the Death Note films I was on a foolish high. It’d only be worth watching/blowing $20 to see how the incredibly strong female characters will be treated by the Hollywoodised/mainstreamised plot.
*I know that Avatar technically does not count as anime, but I can’t bring myself to call it a cartoon.
Richie said
I remember the American live action version of The Guyver, where they just transplanted the entire thing from Japan to America. But this underlines the stupidest thing about the Avatar movie’s casting: It’s still set in sort-of-fantasy-Asia. Even people who haven’t seen the original will notice that something’s wrong with this picture, surely?
Pai said
You heard about the Hachiko movie they’re making now right? Only now it takes place in a little U.S. town with Richard Gere as the dog’s owner. They WHITEWASHED A TRUE STORY. But for some bizarre reason, the dog is still named ‘Hachiko’ and it’s still the same Japanese breed as the real Hachiko. They should’ve made it a Boston Terrier or something to complete the total Americanization.
Cuz gawd knows Americans wouldn’t ‘get’ a movie about something that happened in Japan with actual Japanese people in it! Of course they’d change a cartoon like ‘Avatar’. Asian stuff is just set dressing used ‘for flavor’. =P
Richie said
I’m waiting the eventual upbeat remake of Grave of the Fireflies, starring Aaron Carter and Mylie Cyrus.
Charles RB said
And now I await the remake of The Long Good Friday to be turned into a high-school romcom.
tallycola said
Comments 22 and 23 made me frown harder than anything that’s ever made me frown.
Richie said
I’m sure the real world will find some way of topping them.
bg said
http://www.comicsalliance.com/2009/07/31/bleeding-cools-new-muse-intentional-or-unintentional-parody/
Wondering if anyone else has seen this one yet. It’s over on Rich Johnston’s comics site. If you don’t know who Rich Johnston is…well, be grateful. Either way, I’m not linking directly to his site, but he’s apparently got a new blogger to write about “the sexy side of fandom”. As can be expected in the comics world, it’s of course a feminist triumph, a story of empowerment and overcoming the gender divide.
Okay, it’s not about that at all. It’s about nerds wanting an imaginary girlfriend and some (supposed) actual human female capitulating to their tired little fantasies.
Richie said
Ohhhh dear. It’s like our reality is colliding with Megatokyo.
Charles RB said
Having regularly read Johnston’s columns, I’m pretty sure it’s taking the piss. I’m scratching my head as to what he’s taking the piss FROM.
For Richie: Rich Johnston’s a long-running columnist who usually deals in comic industry gossip, with a repeated sideline in reporting on industry scammers and dodgy companies. (He’s pretty much the only guy who’s done in-depth journalism stuff on publishers like CrossGen. That’s how bad most of the industry press is)
Hermes said
nicely done.
bitstrips.com may be better than toondoo… who knows perhaps it’s the same.